CacheCrazy.Com: March 2013

Saturday, March 30, 2013

The Devil's Playground - A Geocaching nightmare come true

WARNING - This post contains graphic pictures, text and video. If you are offended easily, please go to this link to enjoy " Tools Of The Geocacher " Proceed at your own discretion. 
*note - some of the following is fact and some is fiction and you can decide which is which. BH

It was a Saturday evening in late February. The wind was blowing through hemlocks outside and the cold winter air frosted the window panes. I looked out onto the lawn and hoped that the weather would change for tomorrow. I had planned to attend the Travelnbhappy21 event celebrating their 2000 geocache and take part in the three caches that Nishollow had just put out named “The Devils Playground”. I placed a few more logs on the fire and retired for the evening.

I remember thinking how much fun it was going to be as I drifted off to sleep. The breakfast, meeting new geocachers, old friends and checking out all the cool raffle prizes, it was surely going to be great! Just about the time I fell asleep I entered the thought of the geocaches that Kyle had in store for us. That’s right about when the nightmare began. My body was shocked as if someone doused me with cold water. I was wide awake but I had to be dreaming, I thought to myself however, it all seemed so real.

I was driving on a dirt road and parked off to the side of a field in a place I have never been before
however, somehow I knew this was the place to park. The sky was dark and winter‘s chill was in the air as I climbed out of my truck. Over the knoll I could see this crowd of people coming towards me. There had to be at least 40 people of all ages and along with them were dogs, 6 or 8 beautiful dogs ran free and wild. I was just standing there and as they passed, some waived, others smiled and I too joined them for what, I wasn't sure, but I soon found out. We traveled through the woods at first on a trail and then through the woods of large old trees and dark forest cover. I seemed content to chat and tag along but still not knowing what our destination had in store for me?
Soon there was a group huddled around a large hollow tree, much excitement and picture taking was going on and the dogs howled with excitement. What was all the interest, I thought and I made my way through the crowd. That’s when I saw Nishollow standing there with this shit eating grin on his face saying, “Bloodhounded, come here and check this out”. He had some strange glass box in his hand and he reached out towards me. It didn't take long to realize that the box contained a freaking skull! It had some strange artwork on it and two eyes that stared at me in a way that brought chills down my back! “What the HELL is
that?” I said and everyone around me laughed but this was no laughing matter as Nishollow extended it out towards me. “Here, hold it” he said and I reluctantly held the crazy voodoo head in a box up for a closer look as others took pictures. Weird in some ways, but extremely detailed and artistic in others, I didn't know what it was, but I liked it. Soon, Kyle took the head from me and placed it back into its rightful location and while the others moved off into the woods, he hung back making sure that everything was perfectly in place before he bid the head farewell.

Fast forward to the group once again gathering around, laughing and picture taking, what did this all mean? Another head or something even stranger? I never really could make it out but one of the braver members of the group started to scale down the chasm. What was down there? The whole group cheered when Duane emerged from the gap and held a green container of sorts into the air! I recognized the container as a ammo can, and in my dream I told myself I was geocaching, but this didn't feel like any geocache adventure I have ever been on. It felt strange, like the excitement was building, I could feel the anxiety of the group and everyone looked just a little nervous as we moved on to what I assumed was the final.
The group somehow got ahead of me. Off in the distance I started to see them disappear one by one. Even the dogs were disappearing! I was reluctant to go there and slowly eased in for a look. An old abandoned mine entrance was swallowing them up whole! I was drawn to it. Closer and closer I went until I was right at the entrance and I bent down to look in. Folks were going in willingly! Were they all nuts!?! Who in their right mind would enter an old abandoned coal mine? Every childhood nightmare I ever had started to resurface! What monsters lurked in there hidden in darkness? I figured that if several
people went in ahead of me, the people eating cave dweller in there would probably have had his fill. Hey, I'm a nerd and not all that brave, old mines kinda freak me out, you got a problem with that? I too climbed in and was faced with a police boundary line that went straight across the entrance! I knew I shouldn't be there but I couldn't help myself, I had to continue in deeper and deeper. Once my eyes adjusted to the darkness I could see that others had been there before us and what I found was frightening!

This wasn't just an old abandoned mine shaft  this was a literal torture chamber with the remains of human bones and evidence of unthinkable acts everywhere. Some poor souls were completely vaporized while others beheaded and dismembered so grotesquely that I wanted to puke. Old crates that displayed this odd symbol that reminded me of a bio-hazard held some of the answers to the many questions that ran through my mind. Who would do such a thing? And, why?

Nearing the 100 feet deep mark, part of the answer was chained to the rafters. Soon I realized just what was responsible for these inhumane murders, Zombies! This was a place where zombies took their prey and tortured them for what seemed like information that they needed. They wanted something and may or may not have found it here but these carcasses appear to be that of agents from some federal division with an acronym FVZA? These agents were mangled and massacred and many still in their “death position”. There on the ground, propped up against a toxic waste barrel was a high level agent, brief case still handcuffed to him and littered with roaches and maggots. What was most frightening was the bible sat in his lap as a sign of his only comfort in the cold, damp, dark dungeon of Hell!



I had to get the Hell out of there! I could not see or stomach any more. My eyes were scarred with so many inhumane and sacrilegious sights! I feared I would never be the same. I see the light, I’m going towards the light, faster, run, don’t look back, falling down, get up, got to get out of here, I've got toooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Kevin, Kevin, Kevin wake up! My eyes shot wide open and I sat straight up in bed. My wife looked at me like I was nuts. “Bad dream?” she said half smiling.” Oh man, the worst!” I said as I wiped my eyes to clear my mind of the horror I just witnessed in my nightmare. “You had better get going if you’re going to that geocaching event” she advised. I got up and took a shower but I couldn't cleanse myself of the fear, the gore and disgust. I decided not to go to the event and started cutting firewood instead to clear my mind but no matter what I did, the memories of that dream came back to haunt me all day long!

That evening I had some time to surf the web and I thought I would check out some of the logs from the event to see what I missed. There were a few telling a tale of an awesome time which I expected and I was feeling bad that I didn't go. But, I almost fell off my chair when I looked at the group picture and standing in the second row on the left smiling away was, ME!?!?!

I leave you now with this madness and some really cool pics!

Special thanks to:
Nishollow - You never cease to amaze me! You are my Geohero! What else can I say!
travelnbhappy21 - Congratulations! You guys are two of the greatest people I know who have positivly influensed the sport of geocaching! Thank you!
All of the event attendees: I had a great time with you guys and even though I was under the weather, I enjoyed your company. Until we meet again, keep on caching!
midas1 - Always great to do some geocaching with you brother, thanks for the company!
All of our excellent contributing photographers, helpers of the hides and others:
Pserine, adam9512, John Galt?, Dave (ST.FU) Zellers, Hound,  jkur247 and captainmath! Great job guys!
Special thanks to all of the contributors of raffle prizes too many to mention! There were over 40 quality prizes up for grabs (CacheCrazy.Com contributed a wood slab woodbured clock of a pike striking a spoon, Secret Weapon #7 aka pinecone cache in display wooden box and a new concept cache duo the "his and hers" leopard print camo cache combos)
...................and thank God I have a strong faith in Jesus! That's all I can say.............BH






Friday, March 29, 2013

A Tale Of Two Rocks


A funny thing happened to me recently, while out geocaching.  I found the same cache container on two successive cache finds.  No, not just the same size container.  It was the EXACT container.  It was on two different days, in two different counties, in two different states.  Under normal circumstances, I'd think that was pretty cool.  Heck, even writing that opening sequence makes it sound pretty cool.

It wasn't.  Let me elaborate.

Allow me to submit, for your approval, the fake plastic rock geocache.  I'm sure at one point in time, this was the latest innovation in cool cache containers.  Many a log surely were written about how "I've never seen anything like this before, awesome job!  TNLNSLTFTCLMFAOLOLTTYL!"  This isn't a knock on the rock cache.  It's stood the test of time, and truth be told, it's still a cool cache container.  I have no problem coming across them from time to time.


The first fake rock cache find was in a park in New Jersey.  Ground zero was at the bottom of a slope, about 100 feet in the woods from an open trail.  There were quite a few potential hiding places, and judging from the ratings, I might have to climb the slope.  The hint for this cache wasn't of much use.  If you've ever read my theory on cache ratings, you'll understand why I thought this one might be a fake something-or-another.  The difficulty rating was a four.  The terrain rating (3) led me to believe I wasn't climbing a tree, and most likely wasn't climbing to the top of the slope.  I concentrated my search to the beaten paths on either side of the large rock face.  I had no luck with the right side of the rock face.  There were no nooks or crannies with obvious hiding spaces, nor was there anything out of the ordinary.  It was shortly after I focused my attention to the left side when I saw a couple baseball-sized stones sitting about eye-high.  Bingo!  One of the stones was our aforementioned fake rock geocache.  I found this to be a great hide.  There were dozens of potential hiding spots, yet the "rock" was sitting there, in plain sight.  A well placed 4/3 rating on this one, indeed!

Cool cache container...or torture device?
A few days later I hunt for another geocache, this time in Pennsylvania.  The ratings were a 3/2, I believe.  Having read both the description and hint prior to arriving, I had a gut feeling what I was getting myself into.  Upon arriving at ground zero, my first thought was "The cache owner should have just written 'Here's 1,000 rocks, find the fake one!;"  That's exactly what I was doing for a half of an hour-fishing for a fake rock amongst a bed of rocks.  I don't know what was more aggravating- the fact the cache was where it was, and what it was, or my stubbornness keeping me looking for a stupid piece of molded plastic for so long.

Semi-pot-kettle-black alert:  I own a cache hidden in a rock bed.  It's not a rock, though, and the rock it's under is marked.

As my fiance can attest to, I have a temper.  I was so worked up after finding that cache that I had to go find ANOTHER cache to restore my faith in cache hiders everywhere.  I'm not cache crazy, am I?

Here were two identical cache containers, yet the method in which they were hidden were completely different, and as such, had different difficulty ratings.  Perhaps I can't fault the cache owner of the second cache.  It was a truly evil hide, and I'm sure other cachers would not only spend more time searching, but feel differently about their search.  I found it to be a frustrating waste of time.

Have you ever come across anything similar, where like caches hidden in a different manner, made for unique caching experiences?



Thursday, March 28, 2013

Spring Break







My son, BigAlJr1993, was going on Spring Break from college and Molly who attends with him was joining him at our house for the entire break. We picked them up from college in Upstate NY and then loaded the car with their belongings. Boy was that car packed.





My wife and I had decided that we would search out some caches on the way home and introduce Molly to Geocaching. We were able to secure three caches on the way home.

The first one was a micro about the size of a bottle cap. It was an easy find. We signed the log and then moved on. Our second cache was at an Information center for the Adirondack Mountains. We had to walk into the woods a short distance to find this one; did I mention that it was snowing and very cold? Well it was. We also were not wearing the proper shoes for being out in the snow, but then we weren't going to let that stop us.

We found the cache with no problems. It was a nice ammo can. Molly was pleased to see that they come in different sizes. We dropped off three TBs that we have held onto for too long. I then stocked the cache with SWAG since there was not much in there for kids of any age. On to the next cache.

We stopped for lunch at a local BK and then I did a search with my SMART phone for any nearby caches. There was one not too far away so we headed for it. Now this seemed like a typical skirt cache, but was I in for a surprise when I lifted it up. Low and behold there was a rat under there.

                           Craftimom with the rat in her lap

This little guy had a film canister in his backside with the log in it. We all got a good laugh out of this one. We signed the log and headed home. So we found 3 caches, but better than that we had introduced Molly to Geocaching. She was hooked for sure. After getting home she signed up for an account and now has to log her finds. This weekend we plan on spending all day Saturday taking her out for more caches.


Well that was our trip to Upstate NY to get them, but then we had to make a trip over towards NJ to pick up my daughter, Kyo-Kat. She is in a traveling choir tour and they were finishing up on Sunday and we were going to meet them at a mall to pick her up. We left in plenty of time and arrived with no problems. Katy then called and said they had just gotten on the road and they expected to arrive in about 4 hours.

WHAT? Four hours. You've got to be kidding. What were we going to do now? Well there is always time for a Geocache, or two, or three. The only problem was that I had not brought my GPS or Geobag since that was not in the plans at all. Well once again the smart phone comes in handy.

We were able to look up 12 caches around the area and begin our search. We found a number of micros and I just can't understand why people hide them when it's a perfectly good place for a much larger cache.

We were at a bus stop searching for a micro and we just could not find it. We had searched everywhere possible and I knew we were at the right spot from the hint. No luck. We got back in the car and started reading the logs and noticed that the last three people had logged it as a DNF. This really began to upset me. That was when the police car drove by. Oh boy. Did someone call us in for snooping around the telephone pole? He pulled up behind us and to our right and just sat there. We decided to hit the road.

We headed on to another cache, which we found. Then we decided to find a small series of three caches all within driving distance of the mall. They were odd little caches, but nicely hidden.


                         Some sort of bug

We were up to 9 caches now and still had time to kill. We then saw a nice park called the Algonquin Park. It had two caches located inside of the park area.


We parked and started our walk into the park. Now I must tell you that Craftimom was wearing her dress shoes from church. I was in sneakers. We had to cross a little bridge to get to the first one, but then it was back in the woods a little bit. We were crawling all over some rocks and she was slipping around. I thought this might not have been a good idea, but then we found the cache. It was a nice loc-n-loc. We signed the log, but did not have anything to leave. I guess next time I'll take my Geobag no matter where we go.

We then started walking off toward the next cache. It was a nice walk even though it was cold out. We finally turned off the path to head to GZ and the woods became a little mushy. Well we were determined to find this one. Craftimom saw it with no problem in its hiding place while I could not see it until she pulled it out. What did you expect for a guy that is going in for Cataract surgery on 4/1. That's a story yet to be experienced and told.

So we ended up with 11 finds and 1 DNF. After we found the last one Katy called and said they were just about there. We headed off to the mall and got there just before they did. What a day. We were tired, cold, and couldn't wait to get home to go to bed. All in all it was a fun day. Next time we'll wait a while before we go pick her up. Well maybe we won't because there is always another cache or two to find, or three... or maybe a dozen.

Wednesday, March 27, 2013

Why Not Wednesday - The "Real Truth" about the Easter Bunny



A Note from BH: At CacheCrazy.Com we have a great group of admin and honorary authors. As such, they are all on my special TEAM email list. I send some information now and then of encouragement, praise, thanks and blog stats/news or we exchange some ideas. At times, I have a special surprise. This post was written last year and shared only with our internal TEAM! Hidden away with only authors access on a special page in the blog. But today I am going to bring it out of the closet and share it with the world! Enjoy!

The "Real Truth" about the Easter Bunny

 Long before geocaching was ever possible, before GPS and even before the construction of the ammo can, the Easter Bunny has been hiding eggs and baskets for seekers to find. I have done extensive research on the subject and find the lack of the “truth” about the Easter Bunny upsetting. There are many stories about Pagan Tradition, Egg Dumping and Christian Symbolisms but let me set the record straight right here and now; The Easter Bunny is the first known Geocache hider. So move over Dave Ulmer, the bunny's' coming through.

There are many who agree with me but still some skeptics exist. For your information, there is a little known lawsuit involving the Easter Bunny and Groundspeak. It appears that the Easter Bunny was seriously discriminated against by Groundspeak when selecting a mascot. It’s still tied up in court but, I think there is a settlement on the horizon. Signal had a very impressive resume and does look pretty cool but the Easter Bunny has it all over him in experience with over two million hides. His age came into question but the Easter Bunny can still kick some butt.  The truth be known, in a toe to toe tussle, my money is on the bunny.  And, in all actuality, Energizer had a much more attractive offer anyway.

Where did the Easter Eggs come from anyway?
Rare photo of Peep and Peter aka The Easter Bunny

The story, as I know it, has steamy romantic details of the Easter Bunny and a chicken named Peep who had a very unconventional relationship.They were in love! For years they skirted the public, hiding their relationship from those who cast shame and negativity. Together they created the most beautiful eggs and to cover their tracks, the Easter Bunny hid them from the eye of the public. Do you see where I’m going here?

So, Why an Easter Basket?

The Easter Bunny and Peep were so in love and made so many "Easter Egg"s that they had to use a basket to keep them all together. At times instead of just hiding the individual eggs, he would hide the entire basket to save time. Children took a special interest in the Easter Bunny because of the beautifully colored eggs. Because the Easter Bunny loves kids, he would occasionally add treats and chocolates to the baskets for the children who looked for them. It didn’t take long before parents copied the Easter Bunny’s basket hiding and the Easter Basket was born. Egg hiding was also done in conjunction with basket hiding to make children believe that the Easter Bunny was actually real. Which he is of course. Makes sense, right?

I have seen the Easter Bunny!

I did, I swear I did. I was young with a raging imagination of this huge white bunny that hides eggs and baskets for kids just like me. A stir in my bedroom confirmed my belief, when I felt that tickle on my cheek and opened my eyes, there he was! As alive and real as you and I. To this day I can still see the image. I quickly pulled the covers over my head so he didn't see that I was awake or had found him out. This “real sighting” has energized my lifelong pursuit of the truth.

So, forget all those other stories and spread the truth about the Easter Bunny. On this Easter morning, while you enjoy your chocolates, candy, Easter Eggs and all the joys that Easter brings. Remember the Easter Bunny who has forged a legacy by caching eggs and baskets for many generations. A pioneer if you will, of the hide and seek game that spans the globe much like Geocaching. 
The Easter Bunny is a Geocacher, I just know it!


Happy Easter
Christ has risen hallelujah, hallelujah! 
Bloodhounded

Tuesday, March 26, 2013

GeoCoins

I know you're thinking that GeoWoodstock IX is old news by now.  But I've just realized that I didn't really share the spoils of my trip.  So I'd like to take the opportunity to do so now.  

Trackables are a special part of geocaching.  There are many types of them as well-geocoins, path tags, and Travel Bugs to name a few.  What makes these items special is that they each come with their own serial number used for tracking the item's location.  You can choose to pick up and move along one of these trackables or you can just "discover" it, meaning you log that you saw it instead of removing it from the geocache.  

I've always wanted me own geocoins, ever since peaceout showed me hers last September.  I had a great opportunity to shop around in Pennsylvania and I came home with five, including the one Brad picked out.

When registering for GeoWoodstock, there were many options for packages.  Folks attending could come for free or you could choose from one of many paid packages.  The one I chose came with this GeoWoodstock coin.  The arrow is pointing to where the tracking number would be.  I blurred it out on this and the others so it couldn't be logged by someone eager for a freebie ;) 

This coin celebrates the fact that I made it to my first Mega event.  An event can only be considered Mega if it has over 500 people in attendance.  GeoWoodstock had over 5,000.  Events this size usually last a day or more and have smaller events that coincide with it.  

Back of the Mega coin



This coin has no special meaning behind it.  I chose it because I like the design and colors.

This is the coin Brad chose.  Not only did they have an EMT coin, but they also had one for firefighters and all branches of the military.  They also had one shaped like a miniature space shuttle.  The hatch opens up to show the tracking number.    


This last coin I chose because of the colors.  I love green.  I also thought it was unique in the way that the coin actually opens and closes on a hinge inside the body of the dragonfly.  




I initially thought that these coins would never see a cache.  I'm worried that they'll disappear much like my two Travel Bugs have.  I've seen two options for my situation.  One is to make a color photo copy onto some thick paper and laminate it.  I recently picked up a "coin" like this and thought it was a great idea.  My other option is to purchase a Proxy coin.   These folks had a booth set up at GeoWoodstock and they sell proxies so you don't have to put your actual coin in the cache.  Instead, you send out the duplicate which has the same tracking number as your original.  These copies are only a few dollars and wouldn't be as tremendous a loss as if the real coin went missing.

Other than coins, I also picked up a dozen or so new Path Tags which I'm eager to share.  Just not today...


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This post was written by Jenny from her personal blog, Jenny Goes Geocaching. Stop by and check out some of her adventures for yourself. Jenny is a regular contributor here at CacheCrazy.Com.
Thank you!

Monday, March 25, 2013

The Best Of CacheCrazy.Com - Extreme Geocaching with Keoki_eme

Back when I first started geocaching I remember seeing a video on extreme caching and thought, "wow, those guys are nuts!" Little did I know that "those guys" were geocachers in my area of Pennsylvania. There was this one guy that was particularly interesting. Keoki-eme is his caching name but he is known by his very appreciative extreme caching friends as, George.

Why appreciative? He is one of the pioneers in the craft of setting "total challenge" of mind and body, 5/5 extreme geocaches in the North East. I remember when he was the FTF on one of my more challenging hides. He had a lot of great things to say about it in an email to me but in the end he said, "the finish (or final) was deflating compared to the location and placement of the first stage". I ran right out to change it. I was out there scouting for days and finally placed it more appropriately. I remember wishing he could see the new location. I sent him an email but weeks went by and nothing. Then one day, Keoki_eme in my inbox and a short and sweet "nice job, excellent placement", I was flying high. I respected him for that. He really followed through and I appreciated his direction. Today at 4/4, The Dog Day's Of Summer is my most challenging cache.

Keoki_eme is an extreme geocacher. I watch from a distance but have never had the nuts to do what they do. Be it caves, trees, structures, cliff climbs, crawl, rappel, squeeeeze through some of the tightest spaces that just writing this has me a little short on breath, they do it all. My many phobias keep me away, but I watch and I wonder. I recently reached out to George in a "out of nowhere" email that I'm sure took him off guard. I couldn't believe it when he accepted to do a guest post! The questions just poured out of me, there was so much I wanted to learn and learn I did. In Northeast PA, Extreme Geocaching and Keoki_eme are synonymous! Everyone around here knows that if you’re going on a Keoki cache, you’re in for a wild time and you may not return the same person or at all. George, thanks for being a part of CacheCrazy and helping us understand the ins and outs of Extreme Geocacheing. Here goes......

Q: Can you tell me how you got into geocaching and where, in your experience with the sport, did it turn extreme?
Got into geocaching when my friend Mark aka “team kasch” talked my wife and I into it. The first cache we went out on was  “ZOFODRAZIWEHT”.  After that, I was hooked.  Amy was for a time, then she began to hate it as I became obsessed.
It turned extreme after I was getting bored with the cache and dashes.  Kept thinking to myself, there has got to be something better out there.  Then I did linuxxpert’s “conquer your fears”.  We became friends and pretty much been doing extreme caches ever since.

Q: So once you realize you’re not the typical geocacher, how did that affect your relationship with the caching community?
Well, I see that a lot of people are into numbers, even though it is a junk cache.  That was me at the beginning, but, I think I grew out of it with extreme caching.  Also, the caching community never really embraced the non-extreme caches I put out, so, uh, maybe the relationship never really changed.

Q: Do folks think you’re nuts? 
In a word “YES”.  I have taken some people out when I have placed my caches and the “nuts”  opinion turns to “wow, this is fun.”
Q: You have so many outstanding hides, which one is your personal favorite and why?
hmmmmm.

  • Non-extreme is “walk into darkness”.  just a nice walk with some neat things to do
  • Off mainland is “ka puka”.  It’s a great non-extreme cache and it’s in Hawaii, what’s not to love?
  • Extreme is, well, hmmmm, uh….i think I love ‘em all.  they all share the “fun” factor, neat places to explore and beautiful areas to do it in. “Garden of Eden” is pretty special with one really awesome stage.


Q:  Some of your caches only see a ‘Found It’ occasionally due to several circumstances.  For example, your “25” cache hasn’t been found in almost three years and that one doesn’t even require special equipment.  Does that bother you? 
I have fun putting out quality caches.  I cannot help that people are so concerned with numbers that they would pass on a great walk with neat stuff to see.  also, there are cachers out there who refuse to do pmo caches.  heck, I was even accused by one of them of being anal and elite,  hence my geodescription.  I put A LOT of time and money into my caches. if someone feels that way, I don’t want them doing my caches.
btw, “25” has been archived.

Q:  Give us an example of what goes into setting up and listing a 5/5 geocache?
I like multi-caches.  Some people travel hours to get to my caches and I want to make sure there time is well spent.  Sometimes I go overboard, like “?”, but, positive feed back keeps me putting them out.
First thing is location. You need one particular stage that is the focal point of the cache.  I will spend several days/trips scouting out an area for a cache, looking for nutty stuff to do.  Once I have locations picked out, I will determine the proper routing of the trip.  Then I will whittle down the number of stages.  Then make the stages. Then find some “sucker” to go out with me to put the cache out.  I used to go by myself, but, then I thought if something bad should happen, no one will find me for days.  That could be a bad thing.

Q: What type of special equipment and training is needed to do some extreme geocaches?
I had no training.  learned as I went. so did most of the extreme group I cache around with.  As far as gear:  harness, kernmantle static rope, ascenders, descenders, helmet, flashlights and a set of nuts, just to name a few.  Once you start buying stuff, it adds up fast.  My backpack, on any typical adventure has over $1000 worth of stuff in and around it.  But, I carry around a lot of toys.
Q: Do you worry about people enthusiastically trying one of your 5/5 caches without the proper equipment or training and putting their lives in danger?
Nope.  “you can’t fix stupid”, says keoki.

Q: where did you learn how to do all this stuff
As I said earlier, self taught.  the extreme thing about doing extreme stuff is that if you don’t do it right the first time, there probably isn’t going to be a second time.

Q: I have to ask this question, do you know of anyone who has been seriously injured doing an extreme geocache? Has anyone died?
no and no


Q: What recommendation do you have for cacher’s that want to do some extreme caching but don’t have contacts with others who are into it?
Go out with our group or any other group that does them.  I am ALWAYS willing to show people the ropes.  The only item you really need to get started is a decent harness.  if you like it after that, buy more stuff.


Q: For folks like me who are scared to death of heights, tight spaces, deep water, clowns, pink elephants, etc. what is your advice? Should I try to conquer my phobias or just watch from the sideline?
I am not particularly fond of heights either, but, once I get started, it’s a blast.  You just gotta do it once and chances are, you’ll be hooked like the rest of us.  I had a husband/wife team go out with me to place “the rock collection”.  I had the husband harnessed up ready to go for a rappel. He was on rope, looked over the edge, and said it wasn’t happening today.  His wife harnessed up and went right over, no problemo.  We got back to the top and male pride kicked in. He rappelled and loved it. Did several more rappels after that one.

Q: Speaking of watching, what are your thoughts on folks claiming the cache when they were merely a spectator of the stages and/or final?
GC rules state all you need to do is sign the log.  It used to bug me, big time, that some people are so pathetic as to be a “geoslug”.  I kinda don’t give a crap anymore.  They have to live with themselves, not I.

Q: What do you think about the direction of Geocaching.com and the new opencaching.com  gaining popularity?
it’s GC’s sandbox, if you don’t like it, get out.  If they ever get queasy with extreme stuff, I’m out.  I really don’t know much, if anything, about opencaching.com. 


Q: if there is one thing that you could change about the sport of geocaching as it is today, what would it be?
I would change proximity distances to half of what they are now, reinstate ALRs and somehow determine a point system for caches, making extremes and all dayers carry more weight than junky light post caches.  Clancy’s crew calls my rating system “pineapple points.” 


Q: Besides extreme caching, what else do you do for fun?
Starting to whitewater kayak.  love hiking.  love Hawaii. and looks like a group of us will be bouncing Fantastic Pit in Ellison’s Cave, GA, this November.  586’ straight down and back up a rope.  Yikes.

Additional comment
If anyone would like to do any of my, or any other, extreme caches, contact me.  I will be more than willing to go along to help them out.  Maybe you should come along. J
Me! Well, uh, I think I'm busy that day, or wait, uh, my life insurance isn't paid up, yeah that's the ticket!LOL!
We'll Keoki_eme in our CacheCrazy rating system adopted by Clancy's Crew, on a scale from 1 through 10, you get 10 Pineapples Points for a great interview! Thanks!
PS: Where would one inquire about a harness? I'm just say'n. 







So, now we got inside the head of a local Extreme Geocacher, let's look out beyond our boarders. Let's check out some Dutch Extreme Geocachers from the Netherlands and see what they're up to? Exdutgecat is a extreme Dutch geocaching team that are into all kinds of fun stuff!













(…in left-to-right order accordingly to pic, to avoid girlfights…) Dirty Cache, Kattukwaad, Fles, GEINponem, Brug, Messejochem, Styx (not in picture)
The crew “as it is” started in 2007 (with Styx joining in 2009) but a few years earlier we were already “hanging together” says Dirty Cache. These guys know how to have fun!

  
Check out some of their videos



It seems to me that no matter here or abroad, Extreme Geocaching is a popular activity among those who seek "a little extra" in their cache. It's unlikely that you'll see these guys looking up lamp skirts, they have much better things to do such as dangling from ledges, climbing cliffs and searching in some dark, wet cave for their treasure. It appears that the cache itself is secondary to the experience and the experience is one you won't soon forget.




And these freaking guys are just outright crazy, cachecrazy!
I have to also give a shout out to our very own homeboy, DctrSpott
who also fits squarely into the extreme geocacher category  

I think for now anyway, I'll keep my feet planted firmly on the ground and continue to watch and admire. Hey, it's still an adventure to me and you never know, one day you may see a picture of me, all harnessed up and hanging from a cliff conquering my fears! Now if I could just figure out that clown and pink elephant thing?
Have fun and cache crazy!

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